I think if I had known more about the actual procedure and the anastesia side effects I would have been better prepared mentally. The FDA announced just hours before the start of the ACC conference that it had approved Boston Scientific’s Watchman device. so, yes even if you have a watchman you can still get blood clots….Wishing everyone here a happy new year, and hopefully a better year. This would typically require cardiac surgery to retrieve the device. First, let us remember, we are discussing the "watchman" device. Your option. You will have to lay flat on your back for at least 3 hours. The subject is deemed by a study physician to be suitable for the defined protocol pharmacologic regimen of aspirin and clopidogrel therapy following WATCHMAN Closure Device implant. The device is inserted with a special catheter entering the left atrium through the femoral vein – The subject is of legal age to participate in the study per the laws of their respective geography. When you are in the recovery room they may give you a dry sandwich to eat. The subject is able and willing to return for required follow-up visits and examinations. The procedure itself was full of surprises for me. Once I decided, I went for it. It took a lot to get them on board for the watchman. Indication for use (IFU) of the Watchman device is to reduce the risk of stroke or systemic thromboembolism from the left atrial appendage in patients with nonvalvular AF who: Are at increased risk of stroke and systemic embolism based on CHADS2 or CHA2DS2-VASc scores and are recommended for anticoagulation therapy It will be 6 months in two weeks since the procedure and I will be getting off plavix and will remain on a baby aspirin only. The nurses should come around at least once an hour to check your incision. The watchman prevents blood clots from forming in the heart. With all medical procedures there are risks associated with the implant procedure and the use of the device. Patients that are being considered for LAA Closure with WATCHMAN device implant based on a history of non-valvular atrial fibrillation who are at increased risk for stroke and systemic embolism based on CHADS2VASc score >2 but have an appropriate rationale to seek a non-pharmacologic alternative to anti-thrombotic therapy due to risks of anti-thrombotic therapy. I am 75 years old and have permanent afib. version 3.3.6.2.3.2Page loaded in 1.451 seconds, "Sorry to hear that, I am doing some research now to see...", "@phoenix1647, I'm sorry to hear that getting the Watchman device was such...", "It took me almost 3 years before I decided to do the...", "Starfirey2k...May I suggest that whoever goes with you for the procedure, bring...", "Have you been on blood thinners while you were deciding to have...", "I have a friend who had a watchman installed. I could not find very much useful information about the watchman procedure online. Ended up with a clot in the brain and in patient in hosp. There is no guarantee that every individual who qualifies and wants to participate in a trial will be enrolled. Post-FDA approval US experience with left atrial appendage closure for stroke prevention in atrial fibrillation. The implant is designed to prevent blood clots caused by atrial fibrillation (A-fib) from getting into the bloodstream. A catheter sheath is inserted into a vein near the groin and guided across the septum (muscular wall that divides the right and left sides of the heart) to the … Mayo Clinic Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, Mayo Clinic School of Continuous Professional Development, Mayo Clinic School of Graduate Medical Education, Advertising and sponsorship opportunities. conclude that the WATCHMAN device is “non-inferior” to warfarin treatment as far as the risk of stroke and bleeding is concerned. Watchman Approval. A single copy of these materials may be reprinted for noncommercial personal use only. "Our study showed that … He had a...", https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930190. I was to have a watchman device implanted on Dec 22.2020. WATCH-TMVR (Watchman for Patients with Atrial Fibrillation Undergoing Transcatheter Mitral Valve) Clinical Trial have the main objective to assess the feasibility of combining clinically indicated MitraClip TMVR and Watchman LAAO in one setting.Mayo Clinic will be the data coordinating center for this trial, which will include up to 3 sites. The good news is that with an extensive procedural checklist in place to ensure the device is stable, this complication hardly … Please make sure you know what is going to happen in your procedure. Had the procedure been properly described, much of the unnecessary suffering could have been avoided I suspect. To implant WATCHMAN, your doctor makes a small cut in your upper leg and inserts a narrow tube, as done in a standard stent procedure. The primary effectiveness end point is the time to first occurrence of ischemic stroke or systemic embolism. A patient’s risk for major bleeding becomes significantly reduced six weeks after the procedure when strong blood thinning medication is … References. By preventing those clots from traveling, the device … The latest entry in the market for devices used to close off the LAA is the WATCHMAN device. More than 100,000 WATCHMAN procedures have been performed worldwide. The subject has a life expectancy of less than two years. The subject has an implanted mechanical valve prosthesis in any position. During the watchman procedure, you will also get a TEE at the start. So, I was expecting basicly the same TEE procedure and the same heart cath like before. They still can't find the source of my bleeding although it has not been a problem for a while now. Blood that is not pumped out may pool in a part of the heart called the left atrial appendage. WATCHMAN is the only device of its kind approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for reducing the risk of stroke in people with atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem. A cardiologist - usually an interventional cardiologist or electrophysiologist - uses tiny tubes called catheters to deliver the device to the left atrial appendage (LAA). All rights reserved. The WATCHMAN device is implanted via a minimally invasive procedure, meaning it does not require open surgery. Your cardi does that. Further, LAAC was dominant over both aspirin and apixaban at 8 years, … Each instance should be brought to the attention of the sponsor to determine eligibility. In use outside the U.S. since 2005, the Watchman is placed into the heart’s left atrial appendage, where 90 percent of stroke-causing blood clots form in atrial fibrillation patients. E-mail Holmes.david@mayo.edu Left Atrial Appendage and Closure Who, When, and How David R. Holmes, Jr, MD; Vivek Y. Reddy, MD Advances in Interventional Cardiology Abstract—Patients with nonvalvular atrial fibrillation have a 4- to 5-fold increase in strokes and that rhythm may be … If a clot … I was to have a watchman device implanted on Dec 22.2020. Boston Scientific Corp. (BSX)’s Watchman device, designed to help prevent strokes in patients with an erratic heartbeat, was safer than previously thought in a second study requested by U.S. regulators, researchers said…The procedure itself triggered strokes, clots or major complications in 2.2 percent of patients within a week, an acceptable risk in return for … Types include: The purpose of this study is to establish the safety and effectiveness of the WATCHMAN™ Left Atrial Appendage Closure (LAAC) Device, including the post-implant medication regimen, for subjects with non-valvular atrial fibrillation who are deemed not to be eligible for anti-coagulation therapy to reduce the risk of stroke. This despite the fact that 5% of the trial participants required intervention to deal with pericardial effusion occurring … Not making an excuse for them, just saying. Very disappointed in this. Interventional study (clinical trial) — studies new tests, treatments, drugs, surgical procedures or devices. Just some minor hiccups is all. I did not expect that. I also had urine retention which I was not prepared for. Device Embolization – The Watchman Device, if not seated properly, could theoretically come loose and essentially float freely until it became trapped in a heart structure. – Pros and Cons of LAA Occlusion Devices vs Anticoagulation https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930190. This analysis demonstrates that LAAC with the Watchman device is a cost-effective strategy for managing non-valvular AF patients who cannot tolerate warfarin therapy. @phoenix1647, I'm sorry to hear that getting the Watchman device was such a negative experience for you. your input could help others decide on this procedure….thanks for your time and help on this. Being on blood thinners was a big issue with my GI team. The Mayo Clinic has a financial interest in the WATCHMAN technology. This week I … Another problem: advocates for the device have used selective reporting and publishing of trial results to alter the way patients and doctors perceive reality. What little is there is not well written and leaves a lot out. Sorry to hear that, I am doing some research now to see if this is something that i would want to have done,,,,if you would please explain what surprised you about the whole process??? During surgery, the surgeon can either remove the LAA and sew the area closed or use a special device called the AtriClip*. The Watchman implant is a permanent heart device. The subject had a prior stroke (of any cause) or TIA within the 30 days prior to randomization. Indications for the Watchman device Dr. Ammash notes that one of the unusual specialties of Mayo's Heart Brain Clinic model is its early consideration of treatment with the Watchman device in AF patients with stroke and significant bleeding. Sorry your friend had a stroke, I know those can be bad. "Mayo," "Mayo Clinic," "MayoClinic.org," "Mayo Clinic Healthy Living," and the triple-shield Mayo Clinic logo are trademarks of Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. Answer a few questions and they assign points to your answers to see if you are eligible for the watchman. Among the more than 200 patients who have been implanted with the Watchman at Cleveland Clinic, there have been no pericardial tamponades, procedure-related strokes, device embolizations or procedure-related deaths. that is the only purpose of the "watchman" for some reason every discussion I have seen about the watchman seems to assume that the watchman will protect you against all blood clots in your body. Please contact the study team for the most up-to-date information regarding possible participation. This for me was very embarrassing when the nurses had to see that area. J Am Coll Cardiol. The subject has a history of atrial septal repair or has an ASD/PFO device. The subject had or is planning to have any invasive cardiac procedure within 30 days prior to randomization (e.g., cardioversion, ablation). The procedure was a failure in that out of 3 devices, none would seal off the opening. Then you get moved to the ward. © 1998-2021 Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research (MFMER). Correspondence to David Holmes, Jr, MD, Mayo Clinic, 200 First St SW, Rochester, MN 55905. Very disappointed in this. Placement of the watchman went well. Here is the problem: The Watchman device does not prevent strokes. went to. the watchman device DOES NOT protect your entire body from blood clots. Did you get your assessment done for the watchman? Mayo Clinic researchers report today in JAMA that adding this procedure is likely the right choice for certain patients but not all. Any use of this site constitutes your agreement to the Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy linked below. They did not put in a urine cath for the procedure. The procedure was a failure in that out of 3 devices, none would seal off the opening. When compared in the best test of medicine, the randomized controlled trial (RCT), the device was inferior to warfarin. I have friends that did the ablation and they were not happy with the results. If yours is successful, you will be on blood thinners for a while. The hospital ward was full and all the nurses were rushed. @1943 @ronva2co and @kidsincollege have had the Watchman device inserted and may have some thoughts to share. It took me almost 3 years before I decided to do the watchman. The composite outcome of stroke/TIA, pericardiocentesis, cardiac surgery, and death occurred more frequently with WATCHMAN (cumulative incidence, 1.93% vs. 1.15%; P = 0.001). The subject or legal representative is able to understand and willing to provide written informed consent to participate in the trial. ADDED: To be honest here, all the people in the procedure room were professional, very kind, and I can only hope I get the same crew with my next shot at the watchman. Liked … What is the WATCHMAN™ device? I will visit the links you provided….thanks for your reply. The AtriClip is implanted from the outside of the heart and stops the flow of blood between the LAA and the left atrium. Describes the nature of a clinical study. Now I will have to wait until they come out with the new devices. @bbeebe1943 also had the same question regarding people who had the watchman implant, so I wanted to invite them to this post and @jstoll 's son had a watchman implanted.. That was due to the hospital and not the procedure itself. Next, you are taken to the procedure room. Your Complete Guide to AFib gives patients with atrial fibrillation a thorough assistant to help you become an empowered patient in an easy to read, high yield, format starting at only $3.69. Phoenix, will you talk to your cardiologist about the discomfort your experienced with the procedure and discuss ways to improve the next procedure? and you will go out. Starfirey2k…May I suggest that whoever goes with you for the procedure, bring a couple small jello packs. Mayo Clinic does not endorse any of the third party products and services advertised. The WATCHMAN™ left atrial appendage (LAA) closure implant is a permanent heart implant used to treat atrial fibrillation (afib) not caused by a heart valve problem. Study statuses change often. Hi @odaleberg, I would like to welcome you to Mayo Clinic Connect.In November, @shedwina was considering having the watchman procedure. Have you been on blood thinners while you were deciding to have the watchman procedure, as a result of having afib? You will wake up on the recovery room. The subject has a known or suspected hypercoagulable state. This permanent implantable device is an alternative to lifelong anticoagulant therapy. I was on thinners a few years ago but have developed internal bleeding so had to stop.Had a big bleed back in 2017 and needed 2 units of blood. A-fib prevents the heart from pumping blood correctly. Background: The PROTECT AF (WATCHMAN Left Atrial Appendage System for Embolic Protection in Patients With Atrial Fibrillation) trial demonstrated that left atrial appendage closure (LAAC) with the Watchman device (Boston Scientific, St. Paul, Minnesota) was equivalent to warfarin for preventing stroke in atrial fibrillation, but had a high rate of complications. Blood clots can be formed in any part of the body. That technology has been licensed to Boston Scientific. The subject has a calculated CHA2DS2-VASc score of 2 or greater. The subject has documented paroxysmal, persistent, permanent or long-term/longstanding persistent non-valvular atrial fibrillation (i.e., the subject has not been diagnosed with rheumatic mitral valvular heart disease). I wish you well in getting your device. 2016. doi: 10.1016/j.jacc.2016.10.010; Boston Scientific … Back in late October 2003, Mayo Clinic cardiologist Dr. David Holmes, a co-inventor and co-founder of Atritech, wiped a little sweat from his brow after implanting the first Watchman … It's a permanent device that doesn't have to be replaced and can't be seen outside the body. I could not eat mine. Not gripping here. Lack of resolution of related clinical sequelae, or planned and pending interventions to resolve bleeding/bleeding source, are a further exclusion regardless of timing of the bleeding event. It's sounds like, aside from not being able to seal the left atrial appendage (LAA), be unprepared for what to expect was equally upsetting. Thank you. Both doctors were wonderful. Dr Holmes and the Mayo Clinic have financial interests in technology related to this research, which has been licensed to Boston Scientific. I also have an article by Mayo Clinic about Stroke … I did all the research online about the watchman I could do. it is only designed to prevent the blood clots caused by afib in the LAA, to not form in that pocket. Blood clots may form in the pooled blood. Took a while for me to warm up. The sandwich was just too dry for me to get down and something like jello would have helped. The WATCHMAN device is implanted percutaneously (through the skin) in the electrophysiology (EP) lab. After ending […] The implant procedure does not require surgery; however, general anesthesia may be used during the procedure. We often go blindly trusting to a new doctor. I had a heart cath in 2004. Then you will start getting ananstesia. Your throat will be raw and sore from the TEE and getting dry bread down will be difficult. I was expecting maybe 4 people in there. The primary safety end point includes all-cause death, … The subject is currently enrolled in another investigational study or registry that would directly interfere with the current study, except when the subject is participating in a mandatory governmental registry, or a purely observational registry with no associated treatments. I took warfarin for 14 of those years and then switched to Pradaxa. What I wanted most when I woke up was something cold to drink. My research shows a urine cath is not usually used in a surgery lasting less than 3 hours. In contrast, in a recent published review of nearly 4,000 U.S. implantations, rates of these intraprocedural complications were 1.02 percent, 0.078 … Liked by Colleen Young, Connect Director, lucky1038. Surgeon said the rep from the makers told him they are coming out with newer devices that will be more flexable sometime in Feb, Mar, Apr timeframe. Participant eligibility includes age, gender, type and stage of disease, and previous treatments or health concerns. On my pre-procedure TEE, done weeks before, it was simple and easy. The Watchman Device is for reducing risk of stroke in patient with atrial fibrillation without needing long-term blood thinning medications. I was expecting to be shaved only on one side. Your arms and feet will be tied down so you can't move. I’ve been living with A-Fib for close to 20 years now. Maybe some sort of snacks for when you get in your room. The purpose of this study is to establish the safety and effectiveness of the WATCHMAN™ Left Atrial Appendage Closure (LAAC) Device, including the post-implant medication regimen, for subjects with non-valvular atrial fibrillation who are deemed not to be eligible for anti-coagulation therapy to reduce the risk of stroke. you are prepped for the procedure room. This consists of an IV line put in, a 12 lead monitor hooked up then you get the entire pubic area shaved. I'm grateful that you shared your experience to help others be better prepared to ask questions about what to expect. Study objectives: The ASAP-TOO study is designed to establish the safety and effectiveness of the Watchman left atrial appendage closure device in patients with nonvalvular AF who are deemed ineligible for OAC. All of the input here is very good to help as well with my decision to pursue the watchman device, thank you all. With afib, the heart’s two upper chambers (atria) beat irregularly. The subject suffers from New York Heart Association Class IV Congestive Heart Failure. I had severe shakes from being so cold. I have a 5 page letter all ready for my follow-up at the end of the month.There is more to the letter than what I posted dealing with not getting anything to eat. The subject had a prior BARC type 3 or 4 bleeding event within the 14 days prior to randomization. Here's a video with Mayo cardiovascular surgeons talking about the: Since my procedure failed, I was not put on blood thinners at all. Turns out there were I think 8 people. That technology has … On the basis of the totality of these data, the Food and Drug Administration approved the Watchman device in patients with nonvalvular AF who (1) have an indication for OAC for stroke prevention, (2) are able to tolerate short-term OAC, and (3) have an appropriate rationale to seek a nonpharmacologic alternative. After being on Pradaxa for 8 months, I started having GI bleeds and over the course of 14 months I had 8 blood transfusions. Then they will remove your gown and you will be completed naked. So your friends blood clot could have come from the leg or a wound of some sort not related to the heart. This one was way different. WATCHMAN was implanted in 2,027 patients prior to FDA approval in March 2015 and 3,822 patients post-approval. Observational study — observes people and measures outcomes without affecting results. The subject is unable or unwilling to return for required follow-up visits and examinations. After surgery you will be told to not lift anything over 10 pounds for at least a week. I am on the list to get one of those. just to be clear, it does not. My cardiologist recommended the watchman due to the high number of AFIB episodes I was having. The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, for reimbursement purposes, subsequently approved the Watchman device as an alternative for stroke prevention in patients with an elevated stroke risk (CHADS 2 score ≥2 or CHA 2 DS 2 -VASc score ≥3) who could be treated with short-term warfarin but in whom there is a rationale for avoiding long-term oral anticoagulation … It is carefully placed to block blood flow into the LAA, where blood clots can form and contribute to … Reddy VY, Gibson DN, Kar S, et al. Medical records research — uses historical information collected from medical records of large groups of people to study how diseases progress and which treatments and surgeries work best. Not so. So now your main concern I assumed to get the LAA successfully sealed. So glad to be able to get off blood thinners. The trial met its primary safety endpoint, finding a 2.2% rate of death, ischemic stroke, systemic embolism, and procedure- or device-related complications requiring surgery or catheter-based intervention that was within the expected upper bound, David R. Holmes, Jr., MD, of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., reported here at the American College of Cardiology meeting. Once you are out they will do the TEE and watchman procedure. I have a friend who had a watchman installed. mayo clinic in mn.And procedure (watchman) was implemented. For the actual watchman implant procedure it went like this: First. There really is not a lot of great info out there. The lack of good care was not expected. Surgeon said the rep from the makers told him they are coming out with newer devices that will be more flexable sometime in Feb, Mar, Apr timeframe. He had a second stroke anyway. Mayo Clinic is a nonprofit organization and proceeds from Web advertising help support our mission. In the base case analysis, the ICER compared with aspirin was €16 971 at 5 years, well below the commonly cited €30 000 threshold. membrane and having barbs for anchoring it to the inside of the LAA. The nurses will start slapping a lot of very cold tabs on your chest, in addition the the 12 you got in the prep room. The subject is planning to have any cardiac or non-cardiac invasive or surgical procedure that would necessitate stopping or modifying the protocol required medication regimen within 90 days after the WATCHMAN Closure Device implant (e.g., cardioversion, ablation, cataract surgery). WATCHMAN is implanted into your heart in a one-time procedure. Guidelines differ from study to study, and identify who can or cannot participate. For me and I speak only for me, the anastesia had the side effect of causing multiple erections. Contact the study team to discuss study eligibility and potential participation. I have very strong modesty issues and that upset me a bit. 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